Glyfx Delphi

Hi.

I am making an enquiry as to which version of Installshield you need to
install MDAC components with it for ADO etc.

The Installsheld site
(http://www.installshield.com/downloads/isp/objects/objects6.31.asp) seems
to be pushing the professional version with their installshield objects for
MDAC.

But, the cost of the pro version is as much as Delphi pro - US$999 - and
even the express version is US$349.

I gather you can't just use the special edition express version provided
with Delphi as it needs to spawn another process for installing MDAC. Is
this correct?

Would the express version or the special edition express version provided
with Delphi do the job and install MDAC with the application, doing the
relevant checks for existing MDAC versions and not overwriting newer ones?

Any comments appreciated, as an additional outlay of US$999 is best avoided!

Thanks,

Lauchlan M.

Lauchlan,

The MDAC re-distributable is a standalone exe file that installs all the
components (and has command line switches to make it 'silent'). I would
highly recommend using InnoSetup as the installer package, and simply tell
the installer to run the MDAC file. It works perfectly everytime (Ive used
it on a lot of projects, including ones with InterBase installs). You can
get InnoSetup from www.jrsoftware.org

Cheers,

Dave
www.glyfx.com

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Just include mdac_type.exe with your installation and run in while
installation process. But the best way is to redirect your customers to
http://www.microsoft.com/data to download their localized version. If MDAC
locale is different of Windows locale it can install incorrectly.

Regards,
Vassiliev V.V.
http://www.oledbdirect.com

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Thanks Dave.

So does this .exe take care of checking whether later versions of MDAC etc
have been installed and shouldn't be overwritten?

The advice http://www.jrsoftware.org/ishowto.phtml?a=dcommdac is essentially
just to script it to run the executable - do you need to do any version
checking as well?

Thanks,

Lauchlan M.

Thanks Vassiliev.

This is an interesting point, I did not anticipate it would vary by locale.

Do you know if the version of InstallShieldExpress that ships with Delphi 6
can run the MDAC .exe from the installation process?

Also, I have reservations about leaving it to users to install their own
MDAC's. The application is to be used by people who may not be technically
minded in general (end-users, not developers).

Lauchlan M.

If you run the MDAC executable it will not install over a newer version. You
can check the MS website regarding all installation issues -
www.microsoft.com/data, the install FAQ is here
http://www.microsoft.com/data/mdac21info/MDACinstQ.htm

Regards,

David

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Below is good point for start:
http://www.installsite.org/
Vitaly

Hello,

If you have the InstallShield Express that ships with Delphi 6, it uses
Windows Installer to install the applications. Windows Installer allows you
to attach merge modules to you installation, which seems to be a big
improvement over past methods. This means you don't really need the
traditional mdac_typ.exe file at all, you only need to specify the 'MDAC25'
merge module in your setup. (navigate to 'Specify Application
Data'->'Objects/Merge Modules' in the left hand TreeView in InstallShield,
then check the 'MDAC25' option in the list) And that's all you need to do,
MDAC will then be installed with your installation. It seems too easy, but
it works! You can also look through the other included merge modules; there
are a lot, and you may find some to help you out with other installations.

You could check Microsoft's web site for updated versions of the
'MDAC25.msm' file, if you wanted to make sure you had the most recent
version.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Todd M. Eischeid

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Todd, this is terrific. Thanks!

One question: this installs MDAC 2.5.

MDAC 2.6 is meant to have the SQL Server 2000 support, but not Jet support.
Do you know if MDAC 2.6 still has the JET OLEDB Provider, and whether there
is a workaround for installing MDAC 2.6, 2.7 etc through Installshield
express D6 limited edition?

Thanks,

Lauchlan M.

I found the MDAC 2.6 and 2.7 merge module files at
http://www.jrsoftware.org/ishowto.phtml?a=dcommdac

Lauchlan M.

Pardon me, I pasted the wrong link:

http://www.installshield.com/downloads/isx/mm/modules.asp

Lauchlan M.

Just remember one thing with Windows Installer Lauchlan.. if the end user
doesnt have the WI runtime, they will have to download an additional 2-4Mb
file just so they can run the setup routine! Win2K/XP has it built in, but
all previous versions do not..
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It sounds like in this case Installshield installs the Window Installer
first when executing the Setup.exe file it creates. According to the
InstallShield Borland Edition help file:

'Installing Windows Installer with InstallShield

If you plan to run your setup on platforms other than Windows 2000 (Windows
NT 4.0, Windows 95, or Windows 98), you may need to install Windows
Installer. InstallShield allows you to include a copy of Windows Installer
in a self-extracting executable file called Setup.exe.

InstallShield can distribute a copy of Windows Installer in one of two ways.
If you choose to compress all of your application files into one package,
Setup.exe will contain your setup package along with a copy of Windows
Installer. Otherwise, your release folders contain Setup.exe, your
application and setup files, the Windows Installer files, and a file called
Setup.ini.

First, Setup.exe determines if Windows Installer is already installed on the
target system. If Windows Installer is found on the target system, it
launches your setup package. If Windows Installer is not installed, or a
more recent version needs to be installed, Setup.exe will install Windows
Installer and then launch your setup package. Note that the system may need
to be restarted for Windows Installer to be updated.

If an end user installs your setup on a Windows 2000 system that has an
earlier version of Windows Installer than what your setup requires,
Setup.exe displays a warning. If you want to suppress this warning, set the
Suppress Launcher Warning property in the ReleasesBuild Your Release view to
Yes.

By default, InstallShield will create Setup.exe along with your setup
package. You can change this setting in the Build Your Release property
sheet.You can change this setting by selecting Options from the Tools menu.
Then, uncheck 'Create Setup.exe.' This is a global change for every project.

In the Advanced Settings panel of the Release wizard, you can control
whether you want to create Setup.exe and which platforms you want to
distribute the Windows Installer service to. Changing this setting in the
Release wizard applies to only the current release.

Depending on your selections in the wizard's Setup Languages panel,
Setup.exe also gives users a choice of which language to run the setup in.

If you are planning on distributing your setup in more than one language,
Setup.exe is required if you would like to give your users the option of
selecting which language version of the setup they would like to run.'

Are you saying that InnoSetup is better as it doesn't use the Windows
installer?

Thanks!

Regards,

Lauchlan M.

Oh I realise that :) But I guess it all depends on whether you want your
users to have to download an additional 2-4Mb of file for the setup (if you
have a CD-only based setup, then its not a problem).
I am not a fan of InstallShield, simply because I have seen it wreck too
many registries/shared files on uninstall operations, as well as Windows
Installer conflicts on some machines. We find InstallShield Express
particularly troublesome..your milage may vary of course. I simply
recommend InnoSetup because its small, fast and unobtrusive. Naturally there
are things that InstallShield or Wise will do that IS simply cannot, but it
all depends on what you need and what you are installing. Price is also a
consideration at the end of the day..

We offer a lot of our developer products (not just GlyFX) for download, and
thats where the size of the installer is very important. A setup built with
Inno only takes around 300-350Kb of space.

I am in no way trying to push you to Inno, just merely stating my opinion,
and what I have found from experience :)

Cheers,

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Dave

Lauchlan,
Thanks for sending me the MDAC merge module links. I'm not sure about
the JET and/or SQL Server support in the new MDAC 2.6/2.7 setup, since I
mostly just use BDE stuff.

Regards,
Todd

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